Summary of RHIC BBLR Discussion on 07.12.2006 Participating: UD, WF, JPK, GS, FZ RHIC run plan depends on US budget development; at the moment continuing resolution; in the best case cool down in January, but delay until March possible Interest by GS and JPK to verify the dependence of LR effects on the #LR collisions; could be tested in RHIC with BBLR at various strengths WF welcomes suggestions concerning the RHIC experimental programme; one goal would be to make the experiments more robust GS presented slides on simulations of D0 scheme with different types of early separation; he uses local emittance variance criterion of UYP and FZ; at 0 and 90 degree in x-y space D0 improves the situation, at 45 degrees the chaotic boundary is reduced; different partition of total dipole strength over two dipole locations yield about the same result; tune dependence is likely; nominal tunes were used in simulations FNAL experience: 1 LR at 5 sigma has a strong effect; calibration of diffusion coeeficient is needed; this is a strong incentive for machine experiments UD showed simulations results for 2005 and 2006 RHIC experiments at injection and at top energy; simulations use Q'=2, include sextupoles, and consider off-momentum particles launched at 1 sigma_delta BNL optics modeling and tracking is done by Yun Luo and Christoph Montag; in 2006 only one clear experiment, at a different tune; a corresponding updated RHIC optics model is being developed; it will be shipped to Ulrich when ready so that he can repeat his simulations for this experiment; UD's conclusion: influence of LR interaction seen in simulations, but sextupoles + off-momentum particles required to be observed FZ proposal: blow up transverse emittance in RHIC and see effect of BBLR on profile monitor (e.g., measure unstable boundary vs. separation); RHIC is movable transversely; JPK proposal: use Schottky monitor to detect dips at resonance locations and amplitude-dependent detuning (as in the ISR); WF: BTF measurements also give some information on tune distribution - they could be simulated FZ: orbits and tunes must be corrected for each BBLR current and each distance (as done in the SPS) to get meaningful results; goals: scaling with current, distance, and energy; end of store studies at RHIC are possibility at least for testing the tools; priority given to LR assessment with BBLR as LR simulator; compensation secondary goal, especially for gold ions where beam-beam effect will be weaker than for protons; 1st demonstrate that there is a problem for LHC and/or RHIC upgrade; 2nd implement compensation; understand power low (lifetime vs. distance) and differences between machines; BBLR could be alternative to phase-2 collimation, but probably yields only ~0.5 sigma gain in triplet aperture; check merits with Ralph?! we pray for the RHIC budget; plan: make synthesis of SPS experiments; presentation to UD & GS & JW after Xmas; draft RHIC experimental programme based on SPS experience; methods and proposals JPK: For octupole compensation, look for papers by J. Gareyte.